June 22, 2017

The story of Quarterbacks this weekend against Denver

Denver’s most popular player of all time used to be John Elway. He probably still is, but he is being chased by a back-up quarterback who has done nothing in the NFL to earn the kind of faith the Denver fans have in him. The only thing Tebow has over Elway is that he came into the league on a high note, unlike Elway’s temper tantrum to enter.

In the 1983 NFL Draft, John Elway was selected as the first overall pick by the Baltimore Colts. He was wary of playing for the Colts because at the time they were one of the worst teams in the league. After throwing a fit (the kind only pampered quarterbacks can), the Colts traded him to the Denver Broncos for a 1st round pick and a couple of players.

Elway went on to have a great career with the Broncos but should also be remembered as the guy that thought he was too good to go through the normal draft process that almost every other player has to go through (right Eli?)

Please remember this fact as you read the comments from Bronco’s fans about Carson Palmer’s current situation. After the 2010 season, a friend of Carson Palmer quoted him as saying, “I will never set foot in Paul Brown Stadium again”; “I have $80 million in the bank,” Palmer reportedly said; “I don’t have to play football for money. I’ll play it for the love of the game, but that would have to be elsewhere.” Palmer’s agent said, “Because of the lack of success that Carson and the Bengals have experienced together, Carson strongly feels that a separation between him and the Bengals would be in the best interest of both parties.”

The similarities between the two players and threatening to not play in order to get their way is strong. However, I think that years from now, only one of them will be in the hall of fame and that is Elway (who has already been inducted).


Then you move on to the ultimate team guy, Timothy Richard Tebow. Here is a guy who is really not a good NFL quarterback right now, but for some reason has the support of the fans. I get it, the guy walks on water and all that but I also understand why many people are sick of this kid. I mean, who the hell writes an autobiography at 23 years old? This reminds me of one of my favorite Tebow stories from the combine:

At the Scouting Combine, the Wonderlic exam is administered to players in groups. The 12-minute test is preceded by some brief instructions and comments from the person administering the test. Per a league source, after the person administering the test to Tebow’s group had finished, Tebow made a request that the players bow their heads in prayer before taking the 50-question exam. Said one of the other players in response: “Shut the fuck up.” Others players in the room then laughed.

Chances are, if the Broncos are down to the Bengals at any point in the game, the Denver fans are going to be chanting for Tebow to enter the game. There is nothing that Bengals fans should want more than to hear those chants. While Orton may not be the flashiest QB and can not turn water into wine, he does give Denver the best chance to win. If Tebow enters, it is because Denver is in trouble and the Bengals are doing well.

Show me where I can donate to the “Start Tim Tebow” billboards.



  1. Just wanted to make a couple of points. First of all, John Elway (myself) was a 2nd round pick of the New York Yankees. So, he had options other than football. So when he was drafted by the Colts it wasnt necessarily a “ill take my ball and go home” like Eli Manning was. He said if he didnt like his draft situation in he would play baseball. And he was serious, as he played 2 summers in the minors for the Yankees. He didnt whine or cry, he excercised his other options.

    As far as Tebow goes, I frequently hear how he is overhyped or came in on a “high note” as you say. But did he really? I mean, yes he won the NC and possibly had the best career of any collegiate football player EVER. But he came into the NFL as a guy who experts said could never play the position. He was referred to as a fullback. He was referred to as an HBack, and tight end. So as a QB is he really “overhyped”?? Sounds to me, from the “experts” point of view at least, that he should be labeled an “underdog”. The “experts” words were surely similar years ago for guys like Eric Crouch or Tommy Frazier. So how can you be described in this fashion and be considered overrated? I will say this. If Cam newton can throw for 400+ in his first game, and Tebow himself threw for 300+ in a game last year, then there is a distinct possibility the kid can play. You say yourself he isnt a good NFL QB right now, but the only way to change that is getting on the field.

    As a Bronco fan, Orton is on a very short leash with me. I could give a rats ass if he gives us the best chance to win if we are only going to win 5-6 games with him. What will that do? What it will do is prolong the agony. Giving Tebow another to develop is not the right answer. I dont want to take another year to find out he cant play, its just another year of agony. So as soon as the coaches and team realize whether or not they can make the playoffs (and if they lose to the Raiders and Bengals at home, thats proof to me), its time to evaluate Tebow for the rest of the year to see if we need to make the play for Andrew Luck or someone else. Its also the ONLY way this controversy will ever die…and it needs to die one way or another!!! Kyle Orton is a free agent after this year, so he either sets the world on fire starting Sunday or he is gone anyways. The Broncos have had 6 losing seasons in my lifetime…SIX in 36 years. We arent use to losing, and it is a fanbase that is as passionate about their football as any other in the league barring NO ONE. So while many consider the fan reactions to be knee jerk, you havent seen anything yet if they dont play well Sunday. It could get extremely unruly

  2. Can you guys imagine how much this whole situation sucks for Brady Quinn, aka the Invisible Man? (“Hey, guys, I’m here too!”) He got swept under the rug in Cleveland, and Denver fans have no interest in him. Not that I feel bad for him. He’s from Notre Dame, and I hate ND.

    Then again, as college football goes, I hate Florida too. I can admit that there is a part of me that wants Tebow to screw up. Not because I dislike him personally, but because he is Florida’s darling son.

    That said, I completely understand why Denver fans want him to start. QB controversies stink for everyone. Bengals fans ought to understand that better than anyone. But at least ours is pretty insulated from the team because the entire situation is at a stalemate right now. Players can’t do anything about it, so they have to marginalize it. It is just something for the media to talk about to get readers and stir up fans. But it is a much more serious thing in Denver. The coach wants one guy; the fans want another. Who knows what the players want, but in the end it doesn’t matter. UNLESS they don’t believe they can win with Orton, and then it means everything.

    The bottom line is that Orton does not fit in Denver because — like Carson Palmer — he needs a pocket and time to be a good QB. Give him that, and he can be fairly good. But the O-line can’t give him that. So he struggles and looks bad, terrible at times. But a lousy pocket isn’t such a problem for a scrambler like Tebow. And fans know that. Maybe he can turn into a Roethlisberger-type QB (only he can keep his zipper up), and maybe he can’t. But how do you find out unless they let the kid play. I would feel the same way.

    Just like I am glad that the Bengals are letting Dalton learn now instead of fumbling through a season with a mediocre vet and letting Dalton get beat around next year.