September 21, 2014

Brandt: Palmer to Seahawks Makes Sense

Could Palmer be dealt before Tuesday's deadline?

With the trade deadline rapidly approaching and Andy “The Red Rifle” Dalton seemingly winning the hearts and minds of Bengaldom, there has been increased speculation regarding Carson Palmer’s future.  Officially, the team’s position is that Number Nine is retired, and they have no overriding reason to seek a trade.  Nonetheless, they are holding steadfastly to his rights, and are maintaining the needed 11 million dollar salary cap cushion in case he decides to show up.

When asked earlier this week about his quarterback’s future, owner Mike Brown said bluntly, “I don’t have a thing to say about that.”

I wrote earlier this week–to some reader dissension–that a Palmer-led Bengal team would not necessarily be any better than this 3-2 Dalton squad, and I stand by that.  A 3-2 start to the season is a pleasant surprise to most reasonable Bengal fans, with or wihout Palmer.

At any rate, it seems the Bengals have scored a rare coup in having found a quarterback of the future.  Andy Dalton has the makings of a long-term answer at the position.

So why not deal Palmer now, before the Tuesday deadline?  NFL.com’s Gil Brandt thinks it could happen.  The trading partner he sees is Seattle, and Palmer’s college coach Pete Carroll:

Andy Dalton’s development has made Carson Palmer more expendable. Palmer played for Pete Carroll at USC, so there’s already a working relationship, and he would be able to help a team lacking a quarterback potentially win the NFC West.

In turn, Seattle would send receiver Doug Baldwin, the undrafted free agent who is off to a great start, and draft choices. The quality of the picks would be based on Palmer’s performance over the next two years. I’m not talking about numbers here, I mean wins and losses. If Seattle makes the playoffs in either year and Palmer starts 50 percent of the games, Cincinnati could get a first rounder. If he doesn’t start much, Seattle could potentially only give up a third-rounder.

This trade would give Seattle a QB for some years to come, as Palmer is only 31. Baldwin gives Cincinnati a good young receiver to pair with Dalton and A.J. Green.

It’s an interesting prospect.  At worst, the Bengals get a 3rd round pick and Baldwin, a player who has shown a great deal of talent and potential.  The Bengals could conceivably use some help there, with Jordan Shipley shelved for the season and Jerome Simpson’s future in doubt.  If Palmer could manage to lead the Seahawks to the playoffs in the comparatively weak NFC West, then the pick could increase in value.

One school of thought is that his value may be peaking now.  Teams like the Seahawks and Dolphins are desperate for help at the position, and Palmer could salvage something out of their season.  Another school would say that the team should not rush into any deals, even if it means letting the deadline pass.  Seattle and Miami will still need a quarterback after the season, and there’s only one Andrew Luck.  Plus don’t discount other teams coming after CP in the offseason, like San Francisco, looking to upgrade over Alex Smith, or Oakland or Minneapolis.  Both teams need an upgrade at the position and are coached by former Bengal assistants.

What do you think?  Would you take the Brandt’s trade, or wait for a better deal in the offseason?

Comments

  1. Bill says:

    Yestreday Artrell Hawkins, who was filling in for Mo Egger on ESPN1530 (and did pretty well btw), spoke with Peter King about this very thing. Both guys have worked with Mike Brown, and both stated unconditionally that Palmer will be traded, but not before the deadline.

    Both cited the same reason: spite. If the Bengals trade him now for a pick, they won’t get to put their pick on the field until 2012. So Mike Brown will make sure that Carson does not play again until 2012. In MikeBrownland that is fair, but letting CP play in 2011 is rewarding him for what he did. Dalton’s success has no bearing on the situation for MB.

    Brandt’s scenario is intriguing, and I would go for it if I could get it. I am curious if Seattle would agree, since a QB needs someone to throw to. But we will never know because of the Immovable Object.

  2. Nate says:

    I think Palmer could end up in Seattle,but I don’t see it happening before the deadline either. It honestly makes sense to wait until the offseason anyway, because the market should be better. Most teams are probably content to go with their current QB situation now, whereas most every team who needs one should be willing to upgrade their position in the offseason.

  3. Brian says:

    Don’t see Palmer trade happening just yet. They could get more for Palmer if he is traded around the draft. Look there is going to be a race for Andrew Luck, the teams that will need a qb will still be in the market for a healthy Palmer. Who would you rather sign Quin, Orton, or Palmer?

  4. gold star chili cheese fries says:

    If they trade him to Seattle, they’d face him a week later… so that is the question in my mind. Sure brown’s spite will probably trump all this debate, but you have to wonder if they’d be scared to face him. Personally, I just want him gone so everyone can let this thing die. I’d love to see them get rid of him now, then let our badass d-line tee off on his ass in week 8. Who wouldn’t wanna see big Pat Sims squash him?